Gloria McDarrah is an editor
and former teacher, and the widow of the legendary Village Voice photographer
Fred McDarrah. July 2014.
I met with Gloria McDarrah in
July 2014, in her sunny coop in the West Village. McDarrah is the widow of Fred
McDarrah, who for four decades was the main photographer for the Village
Voice and was one of the first major chroniclers of the Beats and the
mid-20th century counterculture in Greenwich Village. For years, he
travelled from parties to poetry readings and demonstrations, photographing and
documenting the major historical and literary events in Greenwich Village
before many other observers knew the value of them.
The gracious McDarrah showed
me around her extensive and well-ordered archive of Fred McDarrah’s 250,000 photos.
Fred’s homemade notation system allows her to find the right contact sheet in a
few minutes, whether you want to find the poet Ted Joans or the Beatnik Riot in
Washington Square Park.
Fred McDarrah was born in
Brooklyn and served in the Pacific as a paratrooper during World War II. He
photographed the American occupation of Japan while in the Army. He joined the Voice
as an adman, but became the newspaper’s first staff photographer, where his
mailbox said “McPhoto.” For many years, in addition to a small salary, Fred McDarrah
was only paid $5 per photo. As a consolation, the first Voice editor Dan
Wolf told him that he owned the copyright, which has continued to bring in
revenue for his heirs.
Gloria McDarrah worked as an
editor and taught in the New York City public schools for a time. Gloria collaborated
with Fred on several of his photo books, including The Artist’s World in
Pictures and The Beat Generation. She manages Fred McDarrah’s
extensive archive of more than 250,000 photos.
Gloria McDarragh was born in
the Bronx as Gloria Schoffel. She was raised in Lebanon, Pa., and has lived in
New York since 1953. Gloria and Fred McDarrah were married in november 1960.
In 2018, Gloria McDarrah was
instrumental in publishing New York
Scenes, a glorious retrospective book of Fred McDarrah’s coverage of New York’s political,
cultural and art scenes from the 1950’s to the ‘70’s.
Dylan Foley: You met Fred McDarrah when he went for a
job interview?
Gloria McDarrah: He had sent in a resume with a photograph. This was the Metropolitan
Sunday newspapers, in the promotions department. His sister had gone to Penn
State. We were sorority sisters. They had hired me to be a secretary. My skills
were minimal, but I was willing.
DF: Fred took the famous April
21, 1966 Sip-In photos, a seminal moment in the Village’s gay liberation
movement? [At the legendary “Sip In”, pre-Stonewall gay activists were
challenging a local ordinances banning homosexuals from being served in bars.
In a comic series of events, the first several bars served the defiant gay
activists with no problem, but they were finally refused at Julius,’ a famed
gay bar on 10th Street.]
GM: Yes. It was at the Howard
Johnson’s was below 8th Street on 6th Avenue. I just
thought Julius’ was gay. [Julius’ is a famed gay bar on 11th Street,
known for its filthy ceiling.] I haven’t been there in a long time.
DF: It sounds like it was
fun.
GM: It was, it was.
DF: How did you and Fred fall
into all these different social groups—the writers, the dancers, the painters?
GM: The Village was smaller and everyone knew each other.
Fred, among his other unpaid jobs, was the doorman at the Artists’ Club, where
all the Abstract Expressionists hung out. …as did people like John Cage and
Morty Feldman. They were interested in each others’ work, whether they were
dancers like Eric Hawkins or actors like Judith Malina and Julian Beck.
Everyone seemed to know each other. It was a much more cohesive place. People
would call Fred. This was when he was associated with the Village Voice.
He was there for 40 years. They wanted him to come take their picture, but Fred
had a lot of freedom. He had an authority problem. Nobody could tell him what
to do with his photographs. He took what he wanted to take. He was interested
in the arts. He wanted to document his times. He was basically a journalist. He
originally wanted to be a writer, but he loved taking photographs. Somehow, the
photos took precedence and that’s what he did. [He started at the Voice as an ad man]. He was paid $5 a
photo. He wasn’t paid expenses. We really didn’t have a lot of money.
We were living in this
tenement at 64 Thompson. We had an opportunity to get this apartment, a
middle-income co-op. We couldn’t prove we had enough income. I told Fred that
we either take this apartment or I was going home to Pennsylvania. He went to
Dan Wolf and said, “My wife is going to leave me.” By this time, Fred was
getting $50 a week. Dan doubled his salary, so we could say we were
middle-class people and could afford to be considered for the apartment.
We had a chance to buy a 3-story
building in Tribeca for $17,000. Who had $17,000?
DF: Did Fred cover the
Stonewall Riots?
GM: Howard Smith was there. He called Fred and told him
to come over. Lucian Truscott IV was there, too.
DF: The Voice
headline after the riots was “Fags get upset.”
GM: Arthur Bell was the first
openly gay man at the Voice, and Jill
Johnson was gay, as well, but bigotry was rampant.
DF: Reading Fred’s books,
could you tell me about the 2-hour poem with Jack Kerouac in 1959?
GM: Typical, the girl was doing the typing. It was
all fun. We had some bottles of beer, I am sure. It was at Fred’s apartment on 14th
Street. It was before we had gotten married. Fred had been collecting poems. He
had been photographing people for the book, then they gave him poems. Come to
think of it, I don’t even know if he even promised them a book.
Kerouac had just come to
town. He came with both these guys—Lew Welch and Albert Saijo. Fred wanted
Kerouac to give him a poem, and I guess Kerouac said, “We’ll come over and
write one right there.” It was almost like a parlor game—half serious and half
fun.
Kerouac was drunk. He was
their leader. When he wanted something to drink, we went to that bellydancing
place, Egyptian Garden.
They wanted to get stoned,
but I had to go to work the next day. I worked at the ad place, then I worked
at Harper’s Children’s Books. It was a great job. I met Maurice Sendak. He
wasn’t gay in those days. People would say they were bisexual. Frank O’Hara’s
sister used to be around, Maureen O’Hara.
DF: Do you have any memories
of the poet Brigid Murnaghan?
GM: She was very nice looking. She always seemed so
spaced out to me. I remember the later years when she was toothless.
DF: Are all of Fred’s 250,000
photos archived?
GM: I take no credit. Fred had the soul of a librarian.
He worked late every night.
[We spend about 10 minutes
looking at the archive, neat rows of white file cabinets, then index cards
indicating the contact sheet number. Gloria deftly finds four contact sheets of
Brigid Murnaghan…one of the most famous Fred McDarrah’s photos of Murnaghan was
of her holding her infant daughter in front of the old Kettle of Fish bar].
DF: Did Fred really sue Life
Magazine?
That was amazing. They used a
photograph of his of a demonstration, perhaps an anti-war demonstration. I am
not sure. The caption made it seem like the photo was taken by the FBI. Fred
blew his stack. He said, “No one will ever speak to me again.” He went to Dan
Wolf, his counselor and friend. Dan gave him the name of a lawyer, Howard Ende,
from a law firm uptown He took it on and got $10,000 and an apology from Life
Magazine.
DF: What were the conditions
at the Village Voice?
GM: Fred always complained that he wanted more money, but
it was like a family. We were very friendly with each other. Rhoda Wolf is
still around. Howard Blum is still around.
Clay Felker wanted to fire
Fred. He was such a gutless wonder. They took Fred’s name of off the masthead
without saying anything. Fred called Felker up and said, “Are you trying to
fire me?” Clay Felker backed down and said, “Oh, no, that was a mistake.”
Mailer wrote a column and
hated the typos. Dan always thought that the writers should work for
practically nothing. He never cut anything. He would let it run on and on. You
never had a jump page at the Voice. It would follow one page after
another, until your story was done. That was payment enough. He was helping
them get famous.
DF: Did you know the poet Ted
Joans?
GM: He died not long ago. He was a very sweet guy. I
couldn’t imagine being married to him. He was Mr. Unfaithful. He’d go off to
Paris. He had a wife and four kids. I don’t know how they were supported,
whether they went home to her family.
He was always bubbling over,
the charismatic type.
DF: How did Fred wind up
at the Village Voice?
GM: Fred met Dan Wolf because they lived in the same
apartment. They lived on 66th or 67th Street. It was a
railroad flat and each person had their own room. There was a common kitchen.
It was cheap.
DF: How did Fred come up
with Rent-a-Beatnik?
GM: We were talking one night and I don’t know how it
came to be, but Fred put an ad in the Voice, “for party entertainment,
“Rent-a-Beatnik.” There were definitely people who responded. It was definitely
a comic stunt. It was not serious. Who would think of such an insane thing? It
was a silly idea. Fred didn’t have to pay for the ad. People from all over the
suburbs responded. There was one from Sniffin Court, a little mews in Murray
Hill. There was a party there. Fred may have charged $100. I have to check his
diaries. He went around getting people to come. I would go wearing black
stockings. I was obviously fake because I had a job.
DF: Fred was interviewed for
Mike Wallace’s “Beat Generation” documentary?
GM: There was media interest in the story. Fred got Ed
Fancher to address an auditorium of people in Brooklyn. I don’t know if it was
the psychology of being a Beatnik. Fancher has his office on 10th
Street between 5th and 6th Avenues. He turned 90
recently.
Lutz money founded the Voice.
When Rupert Murdoch bought
the New York Post, the first thing he did was fire Tim McDarrah,
who was the union rep. [Tim is Gloria’s elder son, a writer.]
DF: Did having children
cramp your night lifestyle?
GM: Not very much. Fred always included us in everything.
There’s the famous picture of Andy Warhol holding Patrick and Patrick’s screaming. I guess he was about
two years old.
I was working part time, so
Fred was in charge of the kids. He didn’t have a desk at the Voice
because he didn’t want anyone to know where he was. He had other fish to fry.
You don’t get all that filing done at night. You have to put in other times.
When he finally reached the buyout stage in the early 1990s, the Voice
wanted to hold on to the copyrights of the photos. Fred blew up. Leonard Stern
was the owner. Fred actually pointed out that he had gotten paid 5 dollars a photo
for years. Dan Wolf had always told him, “These are your pictures.” He would
have that. As it happens, it is a gift that keeps on giving—selling pictures, giving
reproduction rights.
DF: Where did Fred obtain that iconic shot of Kerouac with his arms spread?
GM: It was a poetry reading. George Preston, a professor at City College. He would have these readings Sunday night. Somehow or other, Kerouac came to one of these readings. We do it to this day. If someone wants to reproduce a photo, we are very strict. One-time use only. If you get a contract from someone it is all in their favor. Cross it all out and write in what you want. If they want the picture, they’ll do it.
DF: Did you know the dancer Freddy Herko?
GM: Who is Freddy Herko? I’ve gotten requests. I got a six-page list of events at Judson and other places like the Living Theatre. It was from Getty.
DF: Have you heard of the play “Home Movies” by Rosalyn Drexler?
GM: I worked with Sherman Drexler, her husband. I was a teacher for a while at JHS 50 in Brooklyn.
DF: Yes, the painter Sherman Drexler told me that “moving to Newark was the worst decision in my life.”
DF: I’ve always liked the picture of Diane diPrima and LeRoi Jones sitting in the Cedar.
GM: LeRoi was a very self-contained kind of person. Hetty [Cohen, his first wife] was quite different, very warm and would stop and chat. He was very reserved.
DF: What was Fred McDarrah’s style of shooting?
GM: He didn’t like a lot of fuss. He never had a studio where he would shoot people. He was a street photographer. He always called his pictures snapshots.
DF: Where did Fred obtain that iconic shot of Kerouac with his arms spread?
GM: It was a poetry reading. George Preston, a professor at City College. He would have these readings Sunday night. Somehow or other, Kerouac came to one of these readings. We do it to this day. If someone wants to reproduce a photo, we are very strict. One-time use only. If you get a contract from someone it is all in their favor. Cross it all out and write in what you want. If they want the picture, they’ll do it.
DF: Did you know the dancer Freddy Herko?
GM: Who is Freddy Herko? I’ve gotten requests. I got a six-page list of events at Judson and other places like the Living Theatre. It was from Getty.
DF: Have you heard of the play “Home Movies” by Rosalyn Drexler?
GM: I worked with Sherman Drexler, her husband. I was a teacher for a while at JHS 50 in Brooklyn.
DF: Yes, the painter Sherman Drexler told me that “moving to Newark was the worst decision in my life.”
DF: I’ve always liked the picture of Diane diPrima and LeRoi Jones sitting in the Cedar.
GM: LeRoi was a very self-contained kind of person. Hetty [Cohen, his first wife] was quite different, very warm and would stop and chat. He was very reserved.
DF: What was Fred McDarrah’s style of shooting?
GM: He didn’t like a lot of fuss. He never had a studio where he would shoot people. He was a street photographer. He always called his pictures snapshots.
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